[Mpls] Change subject titles & party

Annie Young anniey at visi.com
Wed Feb 11 18:41:15 CST 2004


Party first - is there supposed to be a meeting of the e-mail minds 
tomorrow night??? I have it on my calendar but seems the location was still 
being debated.  Anyone else going anywhere (after community meetings, 
especially) - meaning the later the better, tomorrow night for an e-mail 
gathering???

Would you all consider changing the subject titles when the thread moves to 
another part of the topic or discussion.  I keep opening some because I 
think it is something about the Park Board and they aren't.  The latest 
messages have not been per se. If you are talking about UV say so or 
whatever the topic,
Thanks,  from one who has to deal with over 300 of these things a day,
Annie Young
East Phillips



At 06:18 PM 2/11/04 -0600, Eva Young wrote:
>At 10:20 PM 02/10/2004 -0600, Chris Johnson wrote:
>>WizardMarks wrote:
>>
>>>Eva Young wrote:
>>>
>>>>When parents are signing their children up for classes - soccer, 
>>>>swimming, art classes, dance, music lessons - no one should have to 
>>>>"check out" an organization to see if they have a hidden agenda.
>>>>
>>>>EY:  In other words, Urban Ventures undermines parents who have 
>>>>religious views different than Urban Ventures.  This is not the type of 
>>>>program that deserves government funding.
>>>
>>>
>>>WM: Anyone who goes to sports programming at an organization affiliated 
>>>with a specific religion that is not their own religion, can expect that 
>>>their kids will be given doses of the sponsor's take on religion.
>>
>>
>>>Under the current federal and state regimes, we have to have expected a 
>>>further eroding of the
>>>separation of church and state.
>>>However, since Eva keeps harping on this, is seems more like a personal 
>>>vendetta than anything else.
>>>
>>>>WizardMarks, Central
>>
>>I have to agree with Eva, and with Wizard on the erosion of separation of 
>>church and state.
>>
>>But it seems more like it's something personal with Wizard to constantly 
>>be defending an organization which tried to _hide_ its religious 
>>leanings.  Sure, if parents send their Jewish kids to a Catholic soccer 
>>camp, they might expect some religion.  But the name "Urban Ventures" as 
>>opposed to Methodist Church gives not one clue about religion.
>>
>>Urban Ventures is the bad guy here -- not for proselytizing, but for 
>>deception and misleading advertising.
>
>Thanks to Chris Johnson for getting my point - and making it clearer.  The 
>problem is with Urban Ventures habit of deceptive marketting.
>
>It sounds like Art Erickson is lobbying Robert Lilligren hard on getting a 
>zoning variance for this project.
>
>I was disappointed that the University of Minnesota didn't get more in 
>it's bonding bill requests.  Pawlenty challenged people to find money from 
>other programs he recommended.  I think the Colin Powell Youth Center is 
>one such item is an easy cut.  I appreciated Governor Ventura's veto of 
>this boondoggle last time.  Hopefully the legislature - and the 
>Minneapolis Legislative delegation will do what they can to stop public 
>funding for Urban Ventures.
>
>Urban Ventures deceptive advertising gave a black eye to any nonprofit 
>organization trying to promote their programs through the schools - 
>including the Girl Scouts.  This is unfortunate - and is not the type of 
>organization that should get a penny of government bonding money.
>
>Eva
>
>
>Eva Young
>Near North
>Minneapolis
>eva at usucceed.com
>Blog is up:
>http://lloydletta.blogspot.com
>
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