[Mpls] smoking ban

[Rick Norby]

I am a man of peace so terrorism is out! The issue is active in the 
City Council so that is where my energy will be. I liked the idea of 
sunsetting a smoking ban in a year or two to see how it works.

Rick Norby
Keewaydin


On Friday, June 4, 2004, at 09:47  AM, Michael Atherton wrote:

>
> To begin, I'd like to comment about the risk of second hand smoke
> and statistics: it's irrelevant.  Why?  Because most people are
> aware that second hand smoke *maybe* a health risk.  What
> do we have to do?  Post signs outside of bars that say, "Entering
> this establishment maybe hazardous to your health?"  Adults should
> be free to take personal risks in their pursuit of happiness.
> It is risky to go baseball games, car races, surfing, sun tanning,
> bike riding, rock climbing, flying, on-and-on ...
>
> The critical point here is that there is no law that requires 
> businesses
> to allow smoking.  Businesses are free to ban smoking, you are free
> to not give them your business.   No one is forcing you to go out
> to these places.  Why are there no smoke free clubs or bars?
> I think that the answer is that there isn't sufficient demand for them.
>
> Rick Norby wrote:
>
>> Not very pragmatic. I think we can all aspire to a higher level of
>> debate than this.
>
> I simply stated that there are a number of conventional avenues
> to promote social change.  I think that they are valid:
>
> 1. You can provide alternatives.
> 2. You can protest.
> 3. You can legislate.
> 4. You can terrorize.
>
> I don't see any justification to progress past level 2.  The only
> reason that I think people are pushing for a ban, is because they
> haven't been able produce change via Avenue 1 and it doesn't
> appear that anyone has even attempted to promote change via Avenue
> 2 yet.
>
> Michael Atherton
> Prospect Park
>
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