[Mpls] 17 Nov. Park Board meeting report, part 2
Chris Johnson
issues at chaska.org
Thu Nov 18 19:29:12 CST 2004
Part 2
5:52pm
* Regular Meeting is reconvened by Olson.
Olson asks for approval of the minutes of the August 18 meeting.
Mason wants the minutes held until missing comments by commissioners late in
the meeting can be added. In particular, she is referring to Walt Dziedzic's
threatening remarks [transcript http://www.mplsparkwatch.org/node/view/146#22
and transcript and Quicktime video http://www.chaska.com/threat.html].
Hauser feigns complete ignorance of what Mason is talking about even though
she was at the meeting in question and was sitting next to Dziedic when he
lashed out.
There is motion and Olson calls the voice vote. He says it carries, but then
Young asks for a roll call vote.
Roll call vote to approve the Minutes for August 18 As Is With Missing Comments:
Berry Graves: No
Dziedzic: Yes
Erwin: No
Fine: Yes
Hauser: Yes
Kummer: Yes
Mason: No
Young: No
Olson: Yes
Motion passes 5 to 4, in a classic "Gang of Five"
[http://www.mail-archive.com/mpls@mnforum.org/msg25254.html] maneuver. [Tony
Scallon accuses me of using that phrase, yet as the link to the Issues List
archive shows, it was actually Mark Snyder.]
5:55pm
* Reports of Officers
Interim superintendent Jon Gurban says he is available for any questions on
his report from earlier in the month when he was not able to be present.
Assistant superintendent Mike Schmidt reports on the youth football program.
Erwin asks about coaching levels? Schmidt answers they were ok, it was a good
year.
Dziedzic comments that soccer is more popular than football and continues to grow.
Assistant superintendent Judd Rietkerk says Cirque de Soliel is in town
looking for sites and have expressed interest in B. F. Nelson and Parade
stadium. He says Park staff has discouraged them due to parking problems at
those locations but are working on a 2005 Parade show, and that Park staff
wants to get an every other year agreement.
Assistant superintendent Don Siggelkow reports that labor negotiations have
started.
* Consent Business
Items 2.1 and 2.2 are moved by Mason, seconded by Fine and Passes.
* Reports of Standing Committees
** Planning Committee
Fine moves item 4.1, seconded by Young, Passes.
* Agreements
Hauser moves 7.1, it is seconded, and Passes.
Kummer comments that the county will hold a community meeting regarding this
trail construction.
"7.2 That the board authorize staff to NEGOTIATE a purchase agreement with
the Columbia Development LP (formerly Lucky Club LLC) for the former Fuji Ya
site."
Hauser moves 7.2.
Someone seconds 7.2.
Mason amends motion to include wording which dedicates the proceeds of this
land sale to the Land Acquisition Fund.
Hauser accepts amendment to her motion.
Erwin seconds amended motion. He supports the project but has a question. He
says there are no park amenities for a long stretch of the West River Road in
this area. He suggests deducting the value of one unit from the price to hold
that unit for MPRB future use as restaurant, rest rooms and/or other amenities.
Young wants to amend Mason's amendment to dedicate the proceeds to purchasing
land on the Mississippi. She has concerns over the Columbia Mill ruins
tunnels, is it a liability? She also has concerns about parking, particularly
for handicapped, and would like to see a "green" roof on the building, which
might actually be a selling point with the neighbors who will look down on the
proposed building.
Siggelkow says they would need a motion to not use the tunnels for hydro power.
Dziedzic thanks Mason for getting more money for Northeast and Southeast sides
of Minneapolis to buy land along the river. Then he talks about how his wife
expects him to work on getting a restaurant in that location. Supports
Erwin's idea.
Hauser asks if the bottom level that the Park Board would lease for parking
will have power and water.
Siggelkow says yes, power and water, and plan is to sacrifice a few parking
stalls to put restrooms in.
Fine comments on the price of what they are selling the land for ($2.5 million
minus $750,000 for parking area gives a real price of $1.75 million), and
thinks that Erwin's idea is interesting and supports Erwin and Dziedzic in
pursuing it.
Young has one other green idea -- reserving a couple of parking stalls for
hybrid-powered cars.
Olson wants a clarification on what the motion actually says at this point.
There is some disagreement on just what Erwin has proposed.
Hauser accepts amendment to dedicate money to Land Acquisition Fund with
dedication to buying Mississippi River front property.
Olson says that opening a restaurant in Minneapolis "is a nightmare" due to
all the red tape. He wants that idea to be a separate motion and will oppose it.
The developer (Jeff Arandell? / Columbia Development) is present and says
there are restaurants at the Mill City Museum, which is nearby, and (will be)
at the Guthrie, when it is built. He also says that the price of one unit in
his development will be $1.5 million plus [which makes it sound like there is
no way the Park Board can deduct that price from the sale price of $1.75
million -- but the negotiated sale could value it at any agreed upon price,
since the developer stands to lose a lot more if he does not get the property
at all.]
Erwin says he suggestion is no requirement to reserve a unit, just that doing
so be part of the negotiation of the sale.
Dziedzic says he will contact preeminent restaurant consultant Mr. Amarcik
[I'm sure I've butchered the name completely] to get the real low down on
putting a restaurant there.
Developer Arandell says he has already talked to Mr. Amarcik[?} earlier this
year and that his recommendation was against it!
Erwin remarks that the Mill City Museum restaurant closes at 5pm, and is only
accessible by going inside and up 2 floors, which makes it less usable by
river front visitors.
Berry Graves says they should vote on this being a discussion between
Siggelkow and the developer.
Asst. super. Siggelkow drops the bomb! He says this approval is the FINAL
approval by the board for selling the land to the developer.
Confusion breaks out. Several members of the board remark that the agenda
clearly states NEGOTIATE, not FINAL sale.
Mason suggests that a restaurant is not part of the core mission of the Park
Board, and is therefore opposed to working on bringing one into this project.
She says that when the Guthrie opens, the competition will result in the
Mill City Museum Cafe extending its hours.
Hauser supports Mason. She reiterates her point about putting some sort of
food amenity in the parking area.
Young says a restaurant is not the best use of the space, and reverses her
support. She says the Park Board's priorities are to take care of the land
and to take care of the kids; enough new projects.
Kummer supports Mason and Hauser.
Asst. super. Rietkerk talks about the Master Plan, and the Palisade Mill near
the Guthrie being identified as restaurant space. He also says the Post
Office site is a better choice for a restaurant.
Erwin asks about the Post Office site and withdraws his motion.
Olson reads motion as it now stands to dedicate the proceeds of the sale of
the Fuji Ya site to land acquisition along the Mississippi River.
Young adds an amendment to encourage (not require) the developer to consider a
green roof. Amendment accepted by Hauser.
7.2, motion to sell land, etc. PASSES.
* Unfinished Business
Resolutions 8.1, 8.2 and 8.3 for assessments to pay cost of removal of
diseased elms are moved by Young and seconded by Fine. All PASS unanimously
on a roll call vote.
6:35pm
* Discussion
** Superintendent Search Update presented by HR director Mary Page
Page says the search is on schedule and briefly outlines the remaining steps.
She notifies the commissioners that one of the three finalists, Dirk
Richwine has withdrawn.
Page says interview with candidate Cristofer Gears will be at 5pm on November
30, and interview with candidate Jon Gurban will be at 6pm on November 30.
These interviews are open to the public.
End part 2 of 3.
Reported by Chris Johnson, Fulton.
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