[Mpls] Sex Offenders
Jhpalmerjp at aol.com
Jhpalmerjp at aol.com
Sat Oct 2 15:50:30 CDT 2004
Well, actually no Robert it's not about a choice between drug offenders
(which incidentally is not exclusively the same as drug users but rather includes
drug dealers as well) and Level III sex offenders. Level IIIs are not being
release or compressed into impacted neighborhoods because of the number of
drug offenders in prison, they are released because they've done their time.
Lighter penalties for drug offenders is a separate issue and trying to hinge
one on the other, in my mind, dilutes and draws attention away from the real
issue: compacting "problems" into impacted communities.
And while I agree with the sentiments of Booker's proposed ordinance, it is
not feasible. (incidentally, the people who check up on and track Level IIIs
and other offenders here in the City are Hennepin County Probations Officers,
and while I speak to how well they do in other communities, the ones we have
in Jordan and Folwell are top notch). The reasons why the ordinance is not
feasible are: 1.The City doesn't have jurisdiction, and 2. even if it did no
one is going to support an ordinance to get more Level IIIs in their area.
Joe Mullery and Linda Hiiggins have tried this several times at the Legislature
and it has never passed.
However, the question of jurisdiction has led to a possible means of dealing
with this problem through a thought Keith Ellison had and that we've
discussed at a couple of meetings on the Northside (in addition to discussions I've
had with some southside people like Barb and Jim). While the City doesn't
have jursidiction, the Department of Correction does and we've been working on
getting a policy that would effect the same thing. Those that are on
supervision, the Department should be able to tell where to go and where not to.
Therefore, the way to accomplish this is to get the Department to agree to a
policy of non-concentration in impacted neighborhoods.
Part of the problem is awareness. While it doesn't mean that they would
care, many people are not aware of the concentration and the reasons for it.
Don Samuels, Dennis Wagner and I met with Steve Sviggum earlier in the year
about this issue and he was shocked to learned of the concentration (Jordan has
the highest concentration in North Minneapolis, combined with Phillips, the
two communities have 50% of the Level IIIs in the city) and the reason (the two
from his hometown were there because of relatives). 1 in 9 people in
Jordan is on some form of supervision. There are only two halfway houses in
Minneapolis, one on the Northside and one on the Southside, and I don't believe
that probation or parole officers are directing people to these neighborhoods,
a number of them are not stopping them. But the largest problem is the group
of landlords who will recruit them under the auspices of doing "God's work"
which is strange because I didn't know God liked you to concentrate large
numbers offenders in a small house and charge them huge rates.
There are a number of other ways of dealing with this too. Dorie's idea is
not bad, and we looked into it (but something else is happening with Fort
Snelling) as well as an idea of having a certification process similar to what
is done for Section 8 acceptable domiciles for those housing Level IIIs. If
you were to do this, you could incorporate regulations such as the provisions
mentioned in the ordinance and cap the rental amount. I believe once the
amount of money is capped or reduced, you'd see a lot less eager landlords
regarding this issue.
The bottom line is that impacted communities should not be subjected to
carrying the weight of the City regarding problems. Out of 81 neighborhoods in
Minneapolis, only 1/4 have Level IIIs. Something to think about.
Jonathan Palmer
Victory
In a message dated 10/2/2004 12:43:26 PM Central Standard Time,
rhalfhill at juno.com writes:
Proposals to make all released sex offenders live at Fort Snelling or some
other similar place is just another proposal to build another prison. If you
put the released sex offenders at Fort Snelling, you would need to hire gua
rds to ensure that the released offenders stay there, money to build a wall
around the facility, and money to pay for their food, clothing, medical care,
etc since you don't want them leaving to work at jobs where they would be going
into neighborhoods where they would have the opportunity to reoffend.
We could avoid the problem of sex offenders and other criminals being
released to prey on new victims if we habe a three strikes and you're out law for
FELONIES. I limit three strikes to felonies because reasonable people would
not want the absurdity of someone being sentenced to life in prison for shop
lifting or cruising to pick up a prositute when these offenses are their third
strike. But when someone has committed three successive felonies such as
armed robbery or rape,
they have been given a reasonable chance to reform their behavior and the
rest of us are entitled to the assurance that we will not be preyed on again.
I did not mention murder because, in the case of murder, ONE strike should
be sufficient for being out. And the three strikes should mean any felony; we
should not have to be told after someone has committee two rapes and one
armed robbery that we have to wait until they have committed three rapes or
three armed robberies before we can
ensure that they will never prey on us again.
Cases such as Dru Sjodin and Katie Poirier(sp?) demonstrate that there are
criminals to whom we should have said "no more" and "we're through explicative
deleting with you!" But the problem is that we can't afford to build the
prisons to hold all the people we are locking up now plus all the additional
people who would be added with a three strikes law. But many of the people we
are locking up now include people found guilty of victimless crimes, mainly
drug users. If it were not for all the drug users we are locking up, we
would have more than enough prison space for the people we should be sending
there.
So you people have to make a clear choice. Would you rather keep locking up
the drug offenders and people who commit other victimless crimes or do you
want to lock up the murderers, rapists and armed robbers who really do prey on
you? You are not willing to pay for enough prisons to do both. So it has
to be one or the other. If someone likes to smoke marijuana and you don't,
you can simply refrain from smoking marijuana and let him or her smoke
marijuana and you can both be happy. On the other hand, if someone wants to murder,
rape or rob you and you don't want any of those things done to you, there is
no way you can both be happy.
We can avoid having a draconian criminal justice system that would be
unworthy of a civilized society if we give criminals a reasonable chance to reform.
But we can avoid having sex offenders who have continued to offend after
they have had a reasonable number of chances to change living among us and
having new opportunities to prey on us.
But we can't do it if we continue overcrowding the prisons with people who
commit drug offenses and other victimless crimes. So which do you choose?
You can't have both.
Robert Halfhill Loring Park
http://halfhillviews.greatnow.com
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