[Mpls] Why some people are excluded

[Paul Skrbec]

Dyna,

If you have a beef with Megan, work it out with her. If you have beef
with me, send me flame e-mails and I'll flame back. If you have a beef
with anyone else, do what you are going to do....but for God's sake,
leave the name of Stonewall DFL OUT OF IT. The issues you are bringing
forward have nothing to do with Minneapolis politics and have no
business on the Minneapolis Issues Forum.

The way you toss around the Stonewall DFL's name is damaging to the good
image that many many many individuals have worked so hard to rebuild
after the recent (almost fatal) collapse of the organization while YOU
were on the board of directors. 

To the people of this forum, I sincerely apologize for dirty laundry
being aired in public. It is not the indent of SDFL to distract from the
otherwise very important issues being discussed here. 

We now return you to your regularly scheduled blogging...

Paul R. Skrbec
Home e-mail - pskrbec at comcast.net
Inver Grove Heights

-----Original Message-----
From: mpls-bounces at mnforum.org [mailto:mpls-bounces at mnforum.org] On
Behalf Of Dyna
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:03 AM
To: Megan Thomas
Cc: mpls at mnforum.org
Subject: Re: [Mpls] Why some people are excluded

	Megan, when I first read this latest bit of character 
assassination from Stonewall DFL I was full of righteous indignation 
and eager to set the record straight.

	Then I remembered how a few years back when I was hanging out 
with a well regarded journalist you told me he was a rapist. You 
never provided any evidence to back up your claim and this person is 
still a well regarded journalist who has not been charged with any 
crime.

	Than a few weeks ago you claimed RT said something he hadn't, 
and you later had to retract your accusations.

	Again in your post you are making allegations that you cannot 
prove. I'd get mad, but then I consider the source... I'm honored to 
be in the company of our mayor and a well regarded journalist who 
shall remain anonymous.

	uncommitted in Hawthorne,

		Dyna Sluyter

>OK, breaking a cardinal rule of my own I will respond to Dyna's
>continued assertations about her exclusion from the Stonewall DFL
Board.
>  (and in my opinion)
>
>Of course there is a major problem here ... namely, how do I explain
>this and stay within the bounds of the rules of this list? How is that
a
>problem ..... my guess is that many of the people who read this list
>have already figured it out. It means that I in order to respond to
this
>I need to make some personal comments. So, with apologies to the list
>manager ....
>
>Dyna was not reelected to the board because she is an unpleasant
>person. She is almost exclusively negative in her tone and comments, at
>times hostile and seems to take pleasure in that hostility.
>
>It has nothing to do with her politics, identity or so on. In the
>simplest terms, people are, at the very least, uncomfortable around her
>and often people feel threatened around her.
>
>As someone who has often been the leader of meetings with Dyna in them
>she is extremely disruptive, makes deliberately hostile and
>confrontative remarks and plays an excessive role in creating an
>unproductive and hostile environment. It often becomes a struggle to
>separate her behavior from the candidate or issue she may be advocating
>for (or against).
>
>Difference of opinion does not nessecitate hostility. I have often been
>supporting different candidates than my other political friends. I am
>not even suggesting that you have to agree to disagree, However, when
>someone is consistenly hostile and disruptive the issue is no longer
>opinion but rather the right of other members of the organization to
>work in a safe and respectful environment.
>
>There is a broader question here of how do you deal with disruptive
>people? The challange is in trying to balance everyone's right to
>participate. Sometimes there are people who simply do not "play well
>with others" and cannot be a member of a group.
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