[Winona] Property Taxes Over Last Four Years: Star Tribune Article

Wed Oct 18 10:41:16 CDT 2006

More or less I agree with with Paul, though investments in projects that
infuse effort into an idea often percolates  to even more energy.  The
Bearfest of Belfast, Maine is an example where small government initiative
grant monies were awarded  to increase tourism.  From that the Bearfest was
born.  Now a few years later Belfast Maine see an average of 26% increase in
business during the Bearfest  creating jobs and economic activity.

Similarly  if this argument is to be carried on  should businesses be
given tax break to afford needs and wants?  Tax breaks to companies like
Wal-Mart  who are subsidized with nice roads, sewer services, tax relief
only to import 80% of their product coming from China and hiring a million
workers in America to work for no or little health care, poor pay and
tremendous social welfare costs.   Guess who pays for Walmarts health care
needs?   The taxpayer  since many of these employees are not insured or are
not afforded insurance if their partner happens to work for a company that
offers a better plan.   Look at the state of West Virginia  Wal-Mart is one
of the biggest tax burdens carried by those citizens.

This is just one example  and if I had more time I would imagine other
companies and some very close to home enjoy tremendous in-direct or direct
subsidies.  I rarely use the road built down by Fastenal  yet this company
uses it more than others - by far.  Are we arguing then  that companies or
businesses like Signatures, or Menards should retroactively pay for the
sewer lines or the dredging of Lake Winona?

Kelly

On 10/18/06 9:24 AM, "Paul Double" <pdouble at hbci.com> wrote:

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> It is easy for me to see why many would like to mix the term fees and taxes.
> If government would constrain themselves to those essential public services
> which we collectively we all need and can acquire for less cost than if they
> were purchased in the open market. These items should be funded by property
> taxes since property is the beneficiary.  Those items which are fluff, or nice
> but not essential, should be paid for with fees collected from those who
> receive value and use the service and should pay for it.  (Fees)
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> The idea that government should supply every service and fill every need for
> every whim that someone thinks is important is foolish.  Those who believe in
> always wanting to expand the roll of government reject what has made this
> country great. The opportunity for people to achieve more as a reward for
> their labor is fundamental to the success of our country producing leaders in
> innovation and technology. If government is to provide all paid by a tax on
> all then can we expect our work week to expand to 60 or 80 hours per weeks or
> will we follow a European failing model which devalues work and is why they
> are becoming irrelevant in the world.
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> Keep property taxes for Police, Fire, Sewer and Water, Streets and let the
> fluff be fees.  I know of no person who wanted to really participate in
> something that didn't have the opportunity to do so by working for it.  When
> we start spending public funds for the likes of Blue Herons then we must think
> property taxes are too low and that LGA is to high!
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> Paul Double 
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> From: winona-bounces at mnforum.org [mailto:winona-bounces at mnforum.org] On Behalf
> Of Kelly Herold
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:53 AM
> To: LindaF; E Democracy
> Subject: Re: [Winona] Property Taxes Over Last Four Years: Star Tribune
> Article
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> Cost of living and inflation eat up many of our taxes  but to be honest the
> tax breaks given to the top 1% of our citizenship is the price we all pay.
> 
> In Minnesota alone around 25,000 folks making 300,000 or more have realized an
> overall tax decrease while those in the shrinking middle class have seen a tax
> increase.  
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> The fee based initiatives also shift much of the tax burden to the middle
> class.  
> 
> When CEO are retiring with 100+ million packages and other compensation
> sweatheart deals the middle class continues to work itself to death.
> 
> Some would argue that the super rich create jobs and I agree.  But the overall
> job creation, are over the past decade, undeniably moving towards less paying,
> low benefit service jobs.  The productivity realize by industry can be
> attributed to mainly two things  increased hours of current workers and
> shipping jobs overseas.
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> As a result  the shared cost of sky rocketing health care, inflated housing,
> and unfair tax burden continues to
> erode the back bone of America, Minnesota and small communities like Winona.
> 
> Kelly
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> On 10/18/06 6:47 AM, "LindaF" <lbfort at ridge-runner.com> wrote:
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> While I don't doubt your numbers are correct I don't think you are comparing
> apples to apples.
> My daughter and son in law live in Onalaska.  I am going to look at her tax
> statement the next time I am at her house.   I believe they are paying higher
> taxes in Wisconsin because more is taken out of that fund for various projects
> than in Minnesota.
>  
> Linda Fort
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> While I know that residential property taxes have gone up, especially  last
> year with the school referendum, please keep in mind that homestead  property
> taxes in Minnesota are less than half on a comparably valued home in
> LaCrosse. I checked the LaCrosse County web site this morning and a house
> valued at $183,000 had taxes of $4,700. A house in Winona at that value
> carried a 2006 property tax of just less than $2,000.
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> My  point--While the increases sure seem to be a bad trend, it could always be
> worse.
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> Stephen Hacken
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> Winona County Assessor
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